Spéculations/News Saison 5 [Open Spoilers]

[John Boyd 008]

Etant donné que la menace doit etre de plus en plus grosse...
(cf communiqué de la fox : president, city, nation, world)

ca sera surement encore plus gros...
attention au syndrome Alias quand meme

j'espere (je fantasme en fait) qu'ils reviendront a des choix de menaces plus petit...

Je verrais bien Jack infiltré quelque part. Car a bien y réfléchir, apart au Mexique, il ne l'a jamais vraiment été...

Surtout que maintenant son nom est mort, il peut lui en donner un autre pour des opérations !

Enfin, we'll see

[B-T]

N'oublions pas non plus que certains éléments qui sont pour l'instant dans l'ombre n'attendent qu'a être réutilisés par les scénaristes :

-si Mandy est à nouveau présente dans la saison 4, nous ne savons toujours pas qui était le commanditaire de la mercenaire dans la saison 2. Nous savons tout juste qu'il était des Balkans (déduit de l'accent), et qu'il était très riche (sur son yacht). De plus il ne semblait pas du tout paniqué par l'echec de Kingsley, ce qui sous entend qu'il a plein d'autres plans).

-de même, plus important encore, nous ne savons pas qui représentait Nina lors de l'achat du Virus dans la Saison 3. Au delà, nous ne savons même pas qui employait Nina. Mais là encore, les indices désignent les Balkans, ou tout du moins l'Europe de l'Est au sens large.

Donc l'Europe de l'Est reste le point commun à toutes les saisons ; si les "méchants" de "première ligne" ont bien été identifiés (Gaines et Drazen pour la saison 1, Kingsley pour la 2, Saunders pour la 3 et maintenant Marwan pour la 4) les "vrais" commanditaires, eux, sont toujours restés dans l'ombre et semblent liés (ce n'est pas un hasard si Mandy réapparait ici; il y a des milliers de mercenaires de part le monde, son implication signifie sans doute qu'elle a été engagée par les mêmes qui avaient orchestré l'assassinat de Palmer des années plus tôt).

Quoi qu'il en soit, de nombreux points restent obscurs et je pense que les scénaristes feront tôt ou tard une saison qui servira à "relier" toutes les autres, c'est à dire à révéler l'identité de toutes ces cellules terroristes. Si la saison 5 semble s'orienter vers une crise avec la Chine, peut être que le nouveau statut de Jack lui permettra d'enquêter officieusement (d'avoir plus de mobilité, plus de liberté...) et lui permettra peut être d'en apprendre plus sur tout ça. De même, Jack commence, je pense, à etre connu des terroristes, car cela fait maintenant 4 fois qu'il empeche les désastres d'arriver. Peut être aurons nous droit à une saison plus "personnelle" (à l'image de la première qui est une vendetta) et moins "ample".

En tous cas, je pense que la série a encore de beaux jours devant elle, si les scénaristes continuent de canaliser efficacement tout ça. Mais je pense que le moment viendra vite ou toutes les saisons, qui ne sont pour l'instant reliées que par les personnages principalement, se retrouveront reliées aussi par les évènements qui s'y sont produits, pour ne former qu'un seul et même bloc.

[Karim]

Dernieres Interviews

Interview Ausiello (Betsy)

Question: I just watched Monday's 24 finale, and please tell me that Kiefer Sutherland is coming back next season! ? Betsy

Ausiello: Yes, Kiefer will be back, but whether he'll be playing Jack Bauer remains an open question. He did, after all, assume a brand-new identity at the end of the episode. Speaking of the finale, were those not the best two hours of television all year? I was literally sitting on the edge of my sofa the entire time. And now you know the truth: Marwan ? not Tony ? was the other male recurring character to get whacked. Personally, I'm just relieved Michelle (Reiko Aylesworth) didn't blow her brains out after thinking that Tony had died, because rumor has it that was the original plan. That would have just ruined me.

Vous imaginez si ça s'était passé comme ça

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How did 24 make its fourth season so successful? (TV Guide) Interview de Bob Cochran


Another day, another few million lives saved by CTU agent Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) as the wild roller-coaster season of 24 wrapped Monday night. The two-hour finale drew an average of 12.2 million viewers, helping the series finish its most-watched — and most controversial — season so far. The Biz talked to series cocreator Robert Cochran about why the show worked so well this year and what lies ahead.

TVGuide.com: It was your best season ever in the ratings. What do you think made this season different from the first three?
Bob Cochran: When we started the season, we had no idea it would break out like this. In fact, we were a little concerned that we had used up some pretty big premises early on — nuclear weapons, biowarfare — you couldn't go back to that well. We thought, "Well, is the stuff we're doing — kidnapping the secretary of defense — are the stakes going to be high enough to draw people in?" I think it worked. The Araz family certainly was an aspect that drew people in. Everything came together. The cast was terrific. Kiefer Sutherland has always anchored things; the chemistry between him and Kim Raver was excellent. Everything worked on an emotional level and that's why the thriller stuff worked.

TVG: How much do you think it helped to start in January and run on consecutive weeks?
Cochran: It sure didn't hurt. That was the network's decision. I always thought it was a good idea to run consecutively because when people miss one [episode], that's when they tend to [break the habit]. I wasn't sure about showing the first four episodes in two nights. That seemed a little risky to me, but I think it paid off brilliantly.

TVG: It will roll out the same way next year?
Cochran: That's the plan.

TVG: It seemed like there was a level of authenticity this season that we didn't see in the first few seasons. There were no made-up countries. The action reflected what's really happening in the world.
Cochran: That's an interesting comment. I feel that particularly in Year 2 we matched up pretty well with what was happening in real life. Although while we didn't make up the countries' names [this season], we didn't name the countries.

TVG: But there seemed to be more specificity this season. It felt more real.
Cochran: The main character, Jack Bauer, is constantly walking the line. Or crossing the line, most would say, in terms of doing stuff that he really shouldn't be doing. But he has to do it in order to accomplish the mission on a given day. It seemed to us it would be very interesting to put him in a position where there is no way out of those consequences. The president is not going to bail him out. CTU is not going to bail him out. There is no way he can dodge the consequences of what he's done. It's not that what he did was wrong necessarily — it's something that's got to be done. But somebody has to take the heat for it. That was interesting to us, and that's how the whole Chinese subplot came into it. Similarly, from a national point of view, if you look at the war on terror, it is having an impact on our relationships with other countries, and that's an interesting thing. So if it made it seem more real, that's great. You see how the implications of what we're doing [to fight] terror play out on the political level and how they play out in the trenches.... The politicians make certain decisions and put certain pressures on the guys who are carrying out their orders, and when things go wrong it's usually the guys in the trenches that take the heat. To me, that is true of every organization and certainly true in the government. I think that helped things seem real, too.

TVG: Some critics have been making an issue about the amount of torture on the show. Is that something that you debated in the writers' room?
Cochran: Yeah. We don't get off on it, but we find ourselves in story situations where, if you were an agent in that situation, you'd really have little choice other than to apply some kind of physical pressure. There is a nuclear weapon that's going to go off in a few hours. I don't think you call the guy's lawyer. You ask him, "Are you willing to talk to me? Talk to me and we'll make a deal?" If he doesn't, what are you going to do? Sit back and let the bomb go off? When you're in that situation storywise, it's tough. Frankly, the main character looks kind of stupid if he doesn't do something.

TVG: And the real-time element of the show probably drives some of it, too.
Cochran: There are two things that drive it: One is the time element, as you said. The other thing is that on our show, unlike in real life, we know that the bad guy knows information. So torturing him doesn't seem so bad, because you know he knows.

TVG: But as viewer, it does makes you think: "How comfortable am I with the lengths my country will go to get information about terrorists?"
Cochran: Absolutely. Regardless of what anyone may say, we are not in any way, shape or form trying to put out political messages, left or right. But if there is a philosophical underpinning to the show, it's that question you just raised: How far can you go in fighting evil before you become the thing you're fighting? Every time Bauer has to decide whether to torture somebody, or how far to go with something, that's the line he's walking. I think in real life, that's the line our country is walking.

TVG: Air Force One was shot down in this show. We heard the original plan was to have the president die, and you had to pull back a little bit.
Cochran: We talked about that and finally decided it wasn't necessary. It was shocking enough that the plane got blown out of the sky, which on most shows, it's safe to say, would not have happened. What we wanted to do was bring David Palmer back as a character. It seemed like a nice way to do that would be to get the acting president, whom we've already established as a pretty competent, strong guy, out of the picture. The vice president — whom we hadn't established at all, so we could do whatever we wanted with him — steps up and it turns out he's in over his head, knows he's in over his head, and turns to an ex-president who's been in this situation before. Our first thought was that you could kill the president. Then we realized you don't have to kill him, as long as he's incapacitated. It's a little less harsh and a little less shocking. We are not necessarily in the business of trying to shock people. We're just trying to tell good stories.

TVG: There seemed to be more personal stakes and emotion this season as well.
Cochran: I totally agree with you. It works best when we're able to do that. It's difficult because you can't really go through a relationship in 24 hours. The format in the show forces you to shorthand a lot of emotional stuff that, in normal storytelling, you'd be able to draw out and explore. Everyone is trying to stop Armageddon; it's pretty hard to have them turn to each other and start talking about how they feel.

TVG: Have you started plotting out the next season?
Cochran: We're wrestling with the first two or three episodes right now.

TVG: Will there be a connection to the last minutes of the finale?
Cochran: Certainly. We'll pick Jack up in a very different place, roughly a year later. Of course, the show is the show, so it won't be long before he's back in the saddle. But we'll explore a little bit of what he's been doing with his life and the situation he's gotten himself into. That will certainly have an impact on his behavior when he gets involved in the streets.

TVG: It must be tricky to decide who lives and who dies on the show at the same time actors are being signed for pilots.
Cochran: Horrible. Not just that — we're always working around actors' schedules. You lock someone in for 24 episodes, and you find out it's a great twist to kill him after 12. So you've overpaid him. By the same token, if you don't lock someone in and you really want them for the rest of the season, that's a problem. The pilot thing is a problem. That's a huge logistical nightmare.

TVG: So do you have to keep your stars out of pilots for the following season's shows even though you may not bring them back? That must be a complicated negotiation.
Cochran: It is. We have to work around that all the time. We try everything we can to give people the chance to do what will further their career. But in the end, we have to serve our show.


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[ChE]

mdr karim j'ai aussi eu peur de la réaction de Michelle...
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[Dadou]

[Karim]

[antoine]

Il a également été dit au cours de l'interview avec Charlie Rose que ce sont le gouvernement et les services secrets américains qui ont demandé directement aux scénaristes de ne pas faire mourir Keeler dans l'attentat (ils étaient plus ou moins prêts à le faire..)


Et heu... Dadou, tu es bien le Dadou qui a lâché une quinzaine de superlatifs et encensé tous les épisodes de cette Saison 4 ?
Mon avis est moins tranché : bonne saison, mais moins bonne que les deux premières ; par contre, le cliff de la Saison 4 me donne très envie de voir la Saison 5
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"This isn't how you thought it would end, isn't it, Jack ?
-This is not over yet."
24, Day 2.

[Dadou]

[Mr. Jack]

Une question : est-ce que ca existe un traducteur ( logiciel ) pour traduire ce qu'il y a d'ecrit en haut ?

Sur the 24 Insider c'est également écrit ça :

I’m hearing that the season will start off with the terrorist bombing of a “high-value target”. It’s unclear if the high-value target is a person or a building but it's looking more and more like a combination of both a prominent building and a high-ranking government official who will be among the many killed in the terrorist attack. There are several other scenarios I’ve heard rumblings about and every single one of them has the same concept of a terrorist bombing of a building with extremely strong international ties. They are also thinking about bringing back a former character to be among the many dead in the massive explosion.

Ca veut dire quoi ?
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Fan-fiction Operation Crepuscule:Terminée
Fan-fiction Operation Aurore Boréale:Terminée
Fan-fiction Opération Eclipse : Terminée
Fan-fiction Opération Sombres Soleils: Episode 7 disponible

[jackbristow]

Arreter de detruire cette saison 4, elle est bien putain un peu de respect pour 24 quoi !

sinon pour traduire va sur

http://tr.voila.fr/
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[Deadstar]

Alors cette fois, c sur!!
Ol va revenir... ca va être génial. Mais j'espère que l'intrigue ne se passera pas seulement à Los Angeles. Et je veux un JACK AVEC LA BARBE dans la prochaine saison, au moins quelques épisodes... imaginez le sur le terrain, ca changera et lui donnera un aspect plus endurci...

[Quentin24]

[Karim]

Manny Coto
(Scénario, production)

Hi all,

I want to welcome every one of you to my website forum, and especially thank all of you for the kind words you've expressed toward me and my work on "Odyssey 5" and on "Enterprise".

On the subject of "Enterprise", I'm intensely proud of the way this past season turned out, but I want to stress that it was the result of the combined efforts of a tremendously talented writing staff working with a creative and seasoned production crew. It was a group effort, headed up by Rick and Brannon.

I'm just starting my work on "24", and it's proving to be every bit as challenging as "Enterprise". It's a totally unique writing process -- like running in front of a train. I'll say this, "24" day five is shaping up to be a doozy. Stay tuned.


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[antoine]

[Deadstar]

palmer ou quelqu'un d'important qui mourrait dans une explosion... ca expliquerait une vengeance des chinois.